News : Oliva Rodrigo & Alanis Morissette Talk About Life in the Public Eye on Our Musicians on Musicians Podcast

Can you imagine what it’s like to be Olivia Rodrigo? The whole world knows all about the breakup that crushed you, thanks to the huge hit songs you wrote about it. They think they know you, too. And by the way, all of this is happening when you’re 18.

One person who totally gets it: Alanis Morrisette. Back in the Nineties,  decades before “Drivers License” made Olivia a star — and a few years before Olivia was even born — she blew up with her own raw, honest songs about feeling betrayed.

So when the two stars met for the latest episode of Rolling Stone’s Musicians on Musicians podcast, presented by Allstate, they had lots to talk about. Olivia is a big fan of Alanis’ music — like, seriously, this-song-changed-my-life fandom. Alanis couldn’t wait to get into it, either. Listen here to find out what happened next.

Rolling Stone’s Musicians on Musicians series brings together artists of all kinds — from Taylor Swift sitting down with Paul McCartney in London to Erykah Badu and Summer Walker going deep on love, songwriting, and UFOs. Here, the artists ask the questions, forging connections live and in person. You can find 10 of these conversations in the November issue of Rolling Stone.